{"id":5638,"date":"2023-06-04T08:29:57","date_gmt":"2023-06-04T08:29:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jstconsultancy.cz\/?p=5638"},"modified":"2026-08-01T08:24:42","modified_gmt":"2026-08-01T08:24:42","slug":"tus-sat-naklady-a-nadca-207","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/en\/tus-sat-naklady-a-nadca-207\/","title":{"rendered":"TUS, SAT, n\u00e1klady a Nadca 207"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At the Heat Treatment Forum in Wroclaw, Janusz Kowaleski from Ipsen had an interesting presentation on &#8220;Choosing the right vacuum furnace&#8221;. All aspects of the selection were mentioned in it, but one of them is the cost of operating the equipment with regard to compliance with AMS 2750G. Nadca 207 for Die Casting Dies states that in order for a furnace to be used to harden die liners, it must be maintained in accordance with ASTM 2750G, or CQI-9.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/p4180148-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5631\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/p4180148-scaled-300x157.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/p4180148-scaled-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/p4180148-scaled-1024x537.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/p4180148-scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Does it make any difference to the heat treatment shop or to the tool shop that makes the dies?<\/p>\n<p>In order to keep the furnace in a validated state, the above standards say that to be sure that the desired temperature is also the actual temperature, throughout the usable space of the furnace, we must perform periodic <strong>SAT<\/strong> and <strong>TUS<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5623\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-222x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"222\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-222x300.jpg 222w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat.jpg 529w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 222px) 100vw, 222px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flukeprocessinstruments.com\/en-us\/service-and-support\/knowledge-center\/thermal-profiling-technology\/regulation-and-process-control\/aerospace-and-automotive-heat-treatment\">https:\/\/www.flukeprocessinstruments.com\/en-us\/service-and-support\/knowledge-center\/thermal-profiling-technology\/regulation-and-process-control\/aerospace-and-automotive-heat-treatment<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>The SAT (System Accuracy Test) <\/strong>is a verification that the entire temperature chain of the furnace from the thermocouple to the connecting cables to the display devices does not show a greater deviation than shown in <strong>Table 11<\/strong> of the <strong>ASTM 2750 G<\/strong> standard. The <strong>SAT<\/strong> should therefore be performed at least <strong>monthly,<\/strong> or after any maintenance that could affect the accuracy of the measurement system<strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>According to CQI-9, 4th edition, <\/strong>the <strong>SAT<\/strong> should be performed <strong>quarterly<\/strong> or after any maintenance that could affect the accuracy of the measurement system.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-tab.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5621\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-tab-300x204.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-tab-300x204.png 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-tab-1024x696.png 1024w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/sat-tab.png 1852w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>TUS (Temperature Uniformity Survey) <\/strong>is a test that says that the required temperature uniformity is present within the working space of the furnace and that it meets the tolerance band of the furnace class according to the <strong>ASTM 2750 G<\/strong> standard. The <strong>TUS <\/strong>should be performed <strong>quarterly<\/strong> or after each major repair of the furnace affecting the uniformity of temperature in the oven, within the qualified temperature range<strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>According to CQI-9, 4th edition, TUS <\/strong>should be performed <strong>once a year<\/strong> or after each major repair of the furnace with an impact on the uniformity of the temperature in the furnace, within the qualified temperature range<strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>However, if the furnace is used in <strong>two qualified temperature zones<\/strong>, e.g. in the temperature zone for hardening from 900 to 1100 C, and in the temperature zone for tempering, e.g. 400-600 C, then <strong>each temperature range can have its own TUS<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5629\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-300x162.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus.jpg 873w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flukeprocessinstruments.com\/en-us\/service-and-support\/knowledge-center\/thermal-profiling-technology\/regulation-and-process-control\/aerospace-and-automotive-heat-treatment\">https:\/\/www.flukeprocessinstruments.com\/en-us\/service-and-support\/knowledge-center\/thermal-profiling-technology\/regulation-and-process-control\/aerospace-and-automotive-heat-treatment<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-tab.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5627\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-tab-300x150.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-tab-300x150.png 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-tab-1024x512.png 1024w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tus-tab.png 1861w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What does this imply? If we are looking for a heat treater that could optimally process our parts, then it will definitely be a heat treater validating furnaces according to <strong>AMS 2750 G<\/strong>. The temperature verification intervals are completely different.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>SAT<\/strong> &#8211; AMS 2750 G\/CQI-9: 1x per month\/1x per 3 months<\/li>\n<li><strong>TUS<\/strong> &#8211; AMS 2750 G\/CQI-9: 1x per 3 months\/1x per year<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>However, there will be a significant difference in costs for the heat treatment shop. Every <strong>SAT<\/strong> or <strong>TUS<\/strong> test costs money. These costs are determined by the downtime of the furnace, depreciation of the measuring equipment, costs of thermocouples, costs of energy and technical gases, costs of the calibration engineer, but also the costs of the furnace operator. It can be estimated that one <strong>SAT<\/strong> will cost around 15,000 CZK, and one <strong>TUS<\/strong> around 40,000 CZK.<\/p>\n<p>The annual costs of furnace validation in <strong>AMS 2750 G<\/strong> mode will then be: 12 x 15,000 + 4 x 40,000 = 180,000 + 160,000 = 340,000 CZK (<strong>14 k\u20ac),<\/strong> in <strong>CQI-9<\/strong> mode then: 4 x 15,000 + 1 x 40,000 = 60,000 + 40,000 = 100,000 CZK (<strong>4,2 k\u20ac).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This is of course reflected in the prices for heat treatment. But it is up to the tool shop or parts manufacturer to judge whether the increased safety of hardening in terms of temperature control is important enough to us that it is worth paying a higher price for processing.<\/p>\n<p>And how do we know in which mode the heat treater keeps the furnaces? It is easy. In the first case, it usually has a Nadcap certificate, in the second, a CQI-9 certificate. If he has neither this nor that, then better go elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/gal.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-5619\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/gal-300x232.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"405\" height=\"313\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/gal-300x232.png 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/gal-1024x791.png 1024w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/gal.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 405px) 100vw, 405px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/cqi-cert.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5617\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/cqi-cert-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/cqi-cert-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/cqi-cert.jpg 724w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And how do I know that the heat treatment plant really follows these regimes? Again, it&#8217;s simple. Just look at the oven. If this document is hanging there, everything is fine. If not, there is another possibility that it is lying in a drawer somewhere. But since it must be in paper form, it is easy to request it. But if such paper cannot be found in the heat treatment shop, it is better to go elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/pec.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-5633\" src=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/pec-300x211.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"211\" srcset=\"https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/pec-300x211.jpg 300w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/pec-1024x720.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/intelligent-kalam.80-240-27-133.plesk.page\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/pec.jpg 1386w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And what are the real requirements for furnaces? Only exceptionally furnace <strong>Class 1<\/strong>, mainly for aluminum heat treatment, for some applications furnace <strong>Class 2<\/strong>. But the predominant one is <strong>Class 5<\/strong>. This is surprising, because nowadays all vacuum furnaces are bought in furnace <strong>Class 2 <\/strong>and in <strong>instrumentation B<\/strong> without exception. <strong>Nadca-207<\/strong> does not prescribe a class of furnace for hardening die inserts, however, it differs from other standards in that it prescribes only one temperature for each material, without a tolerance band. So, if we are going to harden, for example, Dievar, we have a prescription for an austenitizing temperature of 1010 \u00b0C. If we work with furnace <strong>Class 1,<\/strong> we are sure that inside the furnace in the whole space is <strong>1007-1013 \u00b0C<\/strong>, for furnace <strong>Class 2<\/strong> <strong>from 1004 to 1016 \u00b0C<\/strong> and for furnace <strong>Class 5<\/strong> from <strong>995 to 1025 \u00b0C<\/strong>. It is clear what is more advantageous for the customer. However, since Nadca-207 prescribes input tests for impact strength as acceptance parameters, it is only up to the tool shop how it will limit the temperature tolerance band of its heat treatment supplier, and how many risks with too much temperature dispersion it is able to bear.<\/p>\n<p>Ji\u0159\u00ed Stanislav<\/p>\n<p>6. \u010dervna 2023<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the Heat Treatment Forum in Wroclaw, Janusz Kowaleski from Ipsen had an interesting presentation on &#8220;Choosing the right vacuum furnace&#8221;. 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